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		<title>By: young</title>
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		<dc:creator>young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jan- Thanks Jan for sharing your experience.  I think every country and every place is different.  I have done the GAP tour with Peru and was very pleased with it as well, and I have met people who hired their own tour company in Peru and also were very pleased with the service.  I think it really depends on the amount of time you have, your budget, and of course, your comfort level.  Sometimes it&#039;s nice to have everything set up for you when you&#039;re there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jan- Thanks Jan for sharing your experience.  I think every country and every place is different.  I have done the GAP tour with Peru and was very pleased with it as well, and I have met people who hired their own tour company in Peru and also were very pleased with the service.  I think it really depends on the amount of time you have, your budget, and of course, your comfort level.  Sometimes it&#8217;s nice to have everything set up for you when you&#8217;re there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree that often you can find a trip cheaper by booking it directly with a local company, the comparison of saving 70% off of a GAP trip for the Inca Trail got me checking things out seeing as I just did that trip in September. Costs on the Inca Trail are for the most part fixed - the porters have a minimum wage, the permits and fees are set ahead of time. This website has a good breakdown of the minimum costs for the Inca Trail: http://www.andeantravelweb.com/peru/treks/incatrail4.html  If you pay much less than $500 for the 4 day trip someone is being ripped off (either the porters or the quality of the trip for you). You also can&#039;t just &quot;waltz in&quot; to a local tour operator to book the trek.  Permits must be bought ahead of time as there is a limit on the number of people allowed on the trail.  In the peak season it is recommended to buy the permits at least 3 months in advance. 

The cheapest Inca Trail Hike with GAP is $950.  That trek includes 3 extra nights in Cusco plus a Sacred Valley Tour. A cheap hotel room (per person, 2 sharing) in Cusco is about $20. ($60 total), the Sacred Valley Tour starts at $40 for a group tour plus the entrance fees (another $20). GAP also provides porters for carrying your personal stuff (extra clothes, sleeping bag, etc.) If you share a porter with another person it&#039;s worth about $25. So, the Inca Trail Hike would cost about $830. Booking it on your own would be about $500.  Although the cost is significantly less, its not a savings of 75%! You also have to make sure that you are booked through a licensed tour operator as you can&#039;t do the trail without one. Local company or international, to be a responsible tourist, try to find a company that treats its employees well. I&#039;ve never been with Contiki or Intrepid so can&#039;t comment on them. However, the employees on my GAP tours all feel they are treated fairly.  When travelling around Peru on our own, often when we told people we had done a 2 week trip with GAP, the comments we got were that they had a good reputation for treating their employees well and helping out the local economy (staying a local, not international, hotels, and using locals when possible).

I&#039;ve done 4 trips with GAP and on some of them have had a few extra days on our own. With a group you get the luxury of someone else to look after all the details and a bunch of people to travel with.  You also have someone who knows the culture and the language to help you out.  Once familiar with the country, spending a few days on one&#039;s own is a lot easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree that often you can find a trip cheaper by booking it directly with a local company, the comparison of saving 70% off of a GAP trip for the Inca Trail got me checking things out seeing as I just did that trip in September. Costs on the Inca Trail are for the most part fixed &#8211; the porters have a minimum wage, the permits and fees are set ahead of time. This website has a good breakdown of the minimum costs for the Inca Trail: <a href="http://www.andeantravelweb.com/peru/treks/incatrail4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.andeantravelweb.com/peru/treks/incatrail4.html</a>  If you pay much less than $500 for the 4 day trip someone is being ripped off (either the porters or the quality of the trip for you). You also can&#8217;t just &#8220;waltz in&#8221; to a local tour operator to book the trek.  Permits must be bought ahead of time as there is a limit on the number of people allowed on the trail.  In the peak season it is recommended to buy the permits at least 3 months in advance. </p>
<p>The cheapest Inca Trail Hike with GAP is $950.  That trek includes 3 extra nights in Cusco plus a Sacred Valley Tour. A cheap hotel room (per person, 2 sharing) in Cusco is about $20. ($60 total), the Sacred Valley Tour starts at $40 for a group tour plus the entrance fees (another $20). GAP also provides porters for carrying your personal stuff (extra clothes, sleeping bag, etc.) If you share a porter with another person it&#8217;s worth about $25. So, the Inca Trail Hike would cost about $830. Booking it on your own would be about $500.  Although the cost is significantly less, its not a savings of 75%! You also have to make sure that you are booked through a licensed tour operator as you can&#8217;t do the trail without one. Local company or international, to be a responsible tourist, try to find a company that treats its employees well. I&#8217;ve never been with Contiki or Intrepid so can&#8217;t comment on them. However, the employees on my GAP tours all feel they are treated fairly.  When travelling around Peru on our own, often when we told people we had done a 2 week trip with GAP, the comments we got were that they had a good reputation for treating their employees well and helping out the local economy (staying a local, not international, hotels, and using locals when possible).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done 4 trips with GAP and on some of them have had a few extra days on our own. With a group you get the luxury of someone else to look after all the details and a bunch of people to travel with.  You also have someone who knows the culture and the language to help you out.  Once familiar with the country, spending a few days on one&#8217;s own is a lot easier.</p>
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		<title>By: young</title>
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		<dc:creator>young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ulsterman- I did the Annapurna Sanctuary! But I didn&#039;t do it with Gap.  I found a travel agent in Nepal... it was awesome and way cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ulsterman- I did the Annapurna Sanctuary! But I didn&#8217;t do it with Gap.  I found a travel agent in Nepal&#8230; it was awesome and way cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulsterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulsterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been going on as long for decades. In 1994 as part of a round-the-world trip i did the three week Annapurna Circuit in Nepal. On the trek / hike you sleep in very basic huts found in each village you pass through and eat dal bhat (sp?) at every meal. I spent $50 / week or $150 in total.

On the trek i met other Canadians who had booked with adventure companies and had paid thousands for the same experience. They had a guide (there was only one path!) and a sherpa to carry all their useless MEC gear (we walked the circuit in shorts/ t-shirts, and sport sandals). 

This was almost 20 years ago and travelling has simply become more and more sanitized and easy with the advent of the internet. Is their any adventure left when every possible question one has can be answered by  consulting your phone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been going on as long for decades. In 1994 as part of a round-the-world trip i did the three week Annapurna Circuit in Nepal. On the trek / hike you sleep in very basic huts found in each village you pass through and eat dal bhat (sp?) at every meal. I spent $50 / week or $150 in total.</p>
<p>On the trek i met other Canadians who had booked with adventure companies and had paid thousands for the same experience. They had a guide (there was only one path!) and a sherpa to carry all their useless MEC gear (we walked the circuit in shorts/ t-shirts, and sport sandals). </p>
<p>This was almost 20 years ago and travelling has simply become more and more sanitized and easy with the advent of the internet. Is their any adventure left when every possible question one has can be answered by  consulting your phone?</p>
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		<title>By: young</title>
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		<dc:creator>young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tracey H- Thanks so much for your input, Tracey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tracey H- Thanks so much for your input, Tracey!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracey H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t personally travelled with GAP, but my daughter (in her mid-20s) did a south-east Asia tour with them and she loved it.  And we&#039;re glad she was booked with a tour all the way through 4 countries there, often off the beaten path where language would be an issue (not to mention the safety of a lone, young female).  She&#039;s backpacked around Europe for a few months with a couple of friends so she&#039;s comfortable travelling, but she loves GAP for lone travel to exotic (meaning non-English, not-sure-of-safety-issues places).  

My sister and her husband have had 2 GAP trips--Peru/Machu Picchu and Turkey and loved their trips because everything&#039;s arranged, if there&#039;s a problem it&#039;s solved for them (e.g. roads were going to be washed out &amp; their leader got them on a bus early to get out of the area), the guides speak the local language and can tip them off to safety issues and who to talk to if they&#039;re alone and there&#039;s a problem.  They&#039;d both go back on each trip without GAP now that they&#039;re comfortable with the places and understand the customs and risks.  They also travel a lot without tours (all over Europe, Mexico, US and Canada).  

We travel to French Polynesia (Tahiti and her islands) and the language barrier can, at times, be a problem.  Resorts always have English-speaking people to ask questions, but we stay in pensions and people&#039;s backyards and sometimes my French isn&#039;t good enough to follow the details of, for instance, airline strikes (and finding an English-speaking person who knows what&#039;s going on isn&#039;t always easy). My Tahitian definitely isn&#039;t good enough to understand the details (the news is given in both languages)!  But French Polynesia&#039;s a safe, friendly place that we&#039;ve researched well so we&#039;re comfortable travelling around the islands without guides.

We&#039;ve only done one cruise (we really aren&#039;t cruise-type of people) and we did arrange our own on-the-spot tours when we arrived at each port.  You do save a lot, but make sure you get back to the ship on time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t personally travelled with GAP, but my daughter (in her mid-20s) did a south-east Asia tour with them and she loved it.  And we&#8217;re glad she was booked with a tour all the way through 4 countries there, often off the beaten path where language would be an issue (not to mention the safety of a lone, young female).  She&#8217;s backpacked around Europe for a few months with a couple of friends so she&#8217;s comfortable travelling, but she loves GAP for lone travel to exotic (meaning non-English, not-sure-of-safety-issues places).  </p>
<p>My sister and her husband have had 2 GAP trips&#8211;Peru/Machu Picchu and Turkey and loved their trips because everything&#8217;s arranged, if there&#8217;s a problem it&#8217;s solved for them (e.g. roads were going to be washed out &amp; their leader got them on a bus early to get out of the area), the guides speak the local language and can tip them off to safety issues and who to talk to if they&#8217;re alone and there&#8217;s a problem.  They&#8217;d both go back on each trip without GAP now that they&#8217;re comfortable with the places and understand the customs and risks.  They also travel a lot without tours (all over Europe, Mexico, US and Canada).  </p>
<p>We travel to French Polynesia (Tahiti and her islands) and the language barrier can, at times, be a problem.  Resorts always have English-speaking people to ask questions, but we stay in pensions and people&#8217;s backyards and sometimes my French isn&#8217;t good enough to follow the details of, for instance, airline strikes (and finding an English-speaking person who knows what&#8217;s going on isn&#8217;t always easy). My Tahitian definitely isn&#8217;t good enough to understand the details (the news is given in both languages)!  But French Polynesia&#8217;s a safe, friendly place that we&#8217;ve researched well so we&#8217;re comfortable travelling around the islands without guides.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve only done one cruise (we really aren&#8217;t cruise-type of people) and we did arrange our own on-the-spot tours when we arrived at each port.  You do save a lot, but make sure you get back to the ship on time!</p>
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		<title>By: young</title>
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		<dc:creator>young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 04:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dianne- What happened in Madrid? :) Bed bugs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dianne- What happened in Madrid? <img src='http://youngandthrifty.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Bed bugs?</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to travel but its just so expensive - especially accommodation. I can&#039;t stay in a hostel again. Not after what happened in Madrid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to travel but its just so expensive &#8211; especially accommodation. I can&#8217;t stay in a hostel again. Not after what happened in Madrid.</p>
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		<title>By: berberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>berberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a brilliant article. I have worked in Morocco with international travel companies and they always charge more for less services with plenty hidden costs. Now, I work for a local company and we charge 50 percent less with better services: transport, accommodation and local guides. We organize bike tours and adventure trips in local or comfort style. Email us for any info about Morocco. brahim.abounaceur@argansports.co</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a brilliant article. I have worked in Morocco with international travel companies and they always charge more for less services with plenty hidden costs. Now, I work for a local company and we charge 50 percent less with better services: transport, accommodation and local guides. We organize bike tours and adventure trips in local or comfort style. Email us for any info about Morocco. <a href="mailto:brahim.abounaceur@argansports.co">brahim.abounaceur@argansports.co</a></p>
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		<title>By: young</title>
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		<dc:creator>young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 05:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jo- thanks for visiting =)  That&#039;s true.  I don&#039;t know firsthand if tour companies that work with Gap are getting paid better actually.  They might be, but they might not be.  Gap would have to cover for their marketing, the employees in North America etc. and I would think it would cost more than 50% of the price you pay for the tour.  I&#039;m sure Gap pays their local tour companies fairly, and I do agree that people probably would tip more were they to go with Gap.  Have you had a good experience with Gap and their local tour companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jo- thanks for visiting =)  That&#8217;s true.  I don&#8217;t know firsthand if tour companies that work with Gap are getting paid better actually.  They might be, but they might not be.  Gap would have to cover for their marketing, the employees in North America etc. and I would think it would cost more than 50% of the price you pay for the tour.  I&#8217;m sure Gap pays their local tour companies fairly, and I do agree that people probably would tip more were they to go with Gap.  Have you had a good experience with Gap and their local tour companies?</p>
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