23 Responses to Youngandthrifty’s 2012 TFSA Acquisitions

  1. Vicky April 23, 2012 at 10:37 am #

    I’m definitely a fan of the basic market ETFs (XIC, VEU, VTI), but if you have an interest in dividends, XDV is a decent blend between the two.

    Are you concerned that you may eventually have overlap in companies if you’re buying individual stocks as well as a dividend-focused ETF?

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:19 am #

      @Vicky- Yes, that’s a good concern. There are many financials that the ETFs hold that I have (like SLF and BMO) and also telecoms like BCE and TU.

      I just take it as a compliment that these funds like the same things I do lol. However, I do need to try to make sure that as a sector, I’m not too overly weighted.

  2. Modest Money April 23, 2012 at 8:50 am #

    Sigh, I really need to learn more about investing. Once I pay off my debts I promise myself that I’m going to start learning the ropes of this stuff. I had always gone the easy route of just dumping money into RRSPs, but I’m sure that is far from being the best option. Did you start learning all this stuff on your own?

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:24 am #

      @MM- You’ll learn-and once you learn you’ll be so excited and happy that you did. How I got started was reading PF blogs actually! And books!

      I started off with putting money into RRSPs too and thought that was all there was. RRSPs and mutual funds. It wasn’t until I saw sh*tty returns with my investors group mutual fund that I realized there might be something else out there! The best for any investor to start would be the TD eseries. Millionaire Teacher might be a good book for you to read (it has all the basics) and of course, My University Money’s ETF ebook! (it’s free!)

      Good idea to pay off your debts first before you start investing but some people start investing while they have debts (especially debts that are tax deductible, like student loan debt).

  3. Liquid Independence April 23, 2012 at 10:21 am #

    I just realized you can type TFSA using only one hand on the keyboard :-) I pick individual dividend stocks for my equity portfolio but choose ETFs (like XBB) for my fixed income portfolio because I know very little about bonds.

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:21 am #

      I love XBB! I have it in my RRSP and I need to top up that one too (thanks for the reminder).

      For your equity portfolio- do you mean your nonregistered?

      I like that approach- it sounds like its working well for you! For your dividend portfolio, how many different stocks do you own?

      • Liquid Independence April 26, 2012 at 9:54 am #

        I’ve got about 30 or so dividend paying stocks right now. Most of those are in my nonregistered accounts but I have a few low yielding ones in my RRSP as well.

  4. Liggsie April 23, 2012 at 10:53 am #

    Wouldn’t you be better off holding dividend producing securities outside of a TFSA given their favourable tax treatment?

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:17 am #

      @Liggsie- Great question Liggsie! Yes, that’s what I had been saying all along but because I had contribution room I transferred my dividend producing securities to my TFSA (the CAD dollar ones anyway).

      The reason I did this is because in case I sell my dividend producing securities (which has happened in the past and I can’t guarantee I won’t) I will have to pay capital gains tax if it’s outside of a registered plan. Also, the favourable tax treatment isn’t as favourable anymore :(

      Another reason (which I would rather not admit haha) is because my record keeping for buying and selling and adjusted cost base etc. is TERRIBLE and if I keep it in a TFSA I won’t have to worry about reporting income etc. for my dividend payments!

  5. starvingartistcanada April 23, 2012 at 12:13 pm #

    I have a number of favourite ETFs depending on what sector you’re looking, or time frame, or risk tolerance.

    I’m with iTrade so there are a bunch of formerly Claymore ETFs (Now ishares products) which you can trade for free provided of course you hold them for “the long term” (which means 24h or more… yes, a whopping 24 hours)

    I like the bond ETFs only because my TFSA is too small to consider such things directly.

    On the unregistered side of things, I just today bought 100 units of “COW”.

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:15 am #

      @SAC- LOL 24 hours or more- I must be super long for everything then lol. I noticed that the Claymore ETFs I hold are now iShares (they were being converted in my questrade accounts). I think Questrade does the same thing (I need to look into this) but good to hear that iTrade does this.

      COW? I just googled that and it shows: iPath Dow Jones UBS Livestock Total Return Sub-Index ETN

      That’s awesome!

  6. Etienne April 23, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    I have opened three Questrade accounts (two RRSP – locked-in an regular) plus TFSA. I have used your promo code so I hope you’ll get a few hundred dollar in free trades!!!

  7. BeatingTheIndex April 23, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    It looks investors already sold and went away waaay before May :)
    I like the ideas of leaving cash because I still believe we could see more on sale this summer.

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:11 am #

      @Beating The Index-

      I know you’re good at picking up sales! I also need to be cognizant of my GENERAL investments and how much I have in cash and how much I have in equities or real estate. Hard to keep some cash at hand when you know the sales are good!

  8. The Passive Income Earner April 23, 2012 at 4:41 pm #

    What I admire is that you stuck to the strategy you set forth in 2010. ETFs or Dividend Sotcks is not as important as having a strategy you are happy with. Bouncing around means you lose because you inevitably fall for market timing.

    I recently re-balanced some holdings. I had one investment making nearly 30% of my TFSA. Re-balancing work with stocks too :)

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:10 am #

      @PIE- LOL I was only reminded of this strategy by readers- if it weren’t for you guys to remind me what I said earlier, what would I be doing?? :)

      I’m a stickler for market timing (or at least try to be) I must admit :(

  9. Kanwal Sarai @ Simply Investing April 23, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    I would have gone with the dividend stocks. Based on the XDV distributions in the last 4 months, and it’s current price, I calculate it’s annual yield to be 3.93%.

    The following stocks would provide you with a higher yield:

    BMO, 4.7%
    BCE, 5.5%
    PWF, 4.8%
    CM, 5.0%

    The 0.53% MER is low, however over 10 years, $4,000 invested will cost you $212.56 in fees which is 5.3% of your initial investment. The same $4,000 invested in 4 stocks would cost you $39.96 in trading costs.

    • youngandthrifty April 24, 2012 at 7:08 am #

      Awe thanks for the breakdown Kanwal! That’s very helpful.

      XDV is a very teeny portion of my current holdings and I do own BMO and BCE but was hesitant to add more just because I had bought BMO and BCE at lower prices.

      It’s always the dilemma isn’t it :( Add more or invest in ETFs.

      I wanted to stick to my original strategy but I always do intend to buy more dividends. I just felt that my dividend investments were overshadowing my ETF investments and I wanted to “add more eggs to the basket” so to speak by purchasing ETFs.

      The 4 stocks might be volatile over 10 years though- who knows what price they’ll end up being? I guess XDV has seemed less volatile than single dividend stocks.

  10. Brilliant Finances April 24, 2012 at 5:15 pm #

    I’m just new to your site and I’ll have to come back and read up some more, but I would generally say to investors diversification is so important and it’s really tough to be diversified buying individual stocks. You really have to have a lot of money invested in individual stocks to be properly diversified. Also since it’s a tax free trading account I’m assuming it’s a long-term investment strategy.

    • youngandthrifty April 25, 2012 at 4:46 am #

      Hi BF, yes that’s true- it is tough to be diversified buying individual stocks :) That’s why I bought more ETFs :)

      Yup, Tax Free Trading Account pretty long term- the dividends sort of “force” me to be long term. However, the great thing about the tax free trading account for me is that if I decide to sell for a profit, I don’t have to pay capital gains.

  11. Kanwal Sarai @ Simply Investing April 24, 2012 at 7:13 pm #

    Ahhh you just gave me an idea for a future blog post “What is The Ideal Number of Stocks You Should Have in Your Portfolio?” thanks for the inspiration! :)

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