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As a woman who has been dating her boyfriend for the past 7 years, moved in together for the past 1.5 years, my perspective on an engagement ring is simple.

As a woman who has been dating her boyfriend for the past 7 years, bought a home and moved in together for the past 1.5 years, my perspective on an engagement ring is simple.

I think I just want one.

I’m not trying to sound desperate but it does cross my mind sometimes.  The ring symbolizes a lot in our culture and our society. Whether we like it or not, the engagement ring and weddings are symbols of life transitions and moving from one area (young adulthood) into another area of your life (cohabitation and possibly children). These symbolic meanings can’t be easily brushed aside, especially when you have your parents, your grandparents, your siblings, your cousins, your friends all breathing down your neck and wondering when he is going to propose and when you are going to get married. It also symbolizes that someone wants you enough to want to settle down with you and get married. I know that I sound like an hypocrite feminist out there, but things like these are so ingrained in us even while growing up that it’s hard to just shake off.

No, the ring doesn’t have to be 3 months gross or net salary or whatever the stupid De Beers marketing rule is (because that would be ridiculously expensive for a ring), nor does it have to be a minimum sized 1 carat ring (I know a few people who are expecting a “ring upgrade” when they hit the 10 year marriage mark). It doesn’t even have to be a Tiffany ring (though some girls I know may beg to differ).

The Salary Rule

Obviously the salary rule meant something different back then when it was prevalent than it does now. If men followed the salary rule, they would obviously be broke and unable to afford their rent or mortgage. Honestly. Inflation did something funny to our cost of living and I doubt that any woman out there expects their future fiance to pop the question with a diamond that cost three months salary.

To be honest, I know zero women who are engaged who have received rings that were 3 months gross or net salary. Believe me, I know a girlfriend who has a rock the size of her iris (read: 2 carat and up) out there, but it still didn’t cost three months of her husband’s salary. It might have cost the price of a mid-size car but not three months of her husbands salary.

Does Size Matter?

Size matters for a lot of things (wink wink) but I don’t really think it matters for a ring (for most reasonable women that is). The aforementioned girlfriend with the ring the size of your iris? She was annoyed that her fiance spent so much money on her and would have rather preferred they put more money into their down payment.

As long as it’s not the size of a promise ring (read: the size of a constricted pupil) then any engagement ring will really do.

Most women would rather see the money spent on something more practical, like putting money towards a down payment or a trip or a car.  We all are well aware that the resale values of diamonds aren’t anywhere near as high as what you paid for it.

That being said, I know women compare sizes of rings. They really do. But it will be a silent, passive aggressive catty way where no one will realize they are comparing diamond ring sizes with you.

Non-Diamond Rings?

I know another girl who accepted a cubic zirconia ring with a promise that he will buy her a real diamond ring when he graduates from grad school and gets a real job (he has a part-time job but still no ring and not paying mortgage payments). She made sure not to tell her parents because she knew they would be pissed. The last thing that any parent wants to see is that their daughter is not worth a real diamond ring.

The parents can’t help it. It’s the societal-culture thing. Ingrained in most of us, remember?

Another guy friend of mine (he’s kind of a jerk) bought a cubic zirconia ring that is a knock off of a Tiffany and Co. ring and proposed to her with that.  Yeah, kind of a jerk eh?

Well, What Really Matters Then?

What really matters then? That you put some thought into proposing. That you don’t just dump the ring box on the table. That you make sure that the diamond you buy isn’t tainted with blood and sweat from a child in Africa. No, it doesn’t matter if you bought it on Amazon or even Costco, if you get more bang for your buck, then so be it!

Frankly, I don’t think it’s simply just about consumer culture. It’s about family culture in general.  It’s about feeling wanted, feeling valued, and feeling like we actually mean something to you men.  As cliche as it may sound, it really is the thought that counts.

I know many women out there may disagree with me.  Ladies out in the blogosphere, what are your thoughts?

Article comments

Wasiela says:

I am a married woman in her 40s. Been with my husband over 10 years. We have had good times and bad. No money and then had money. I can honestly say that it never mattered the size of the rock, shape, diamond or not diamond. What mattered to me was the effort he put forth to propose. Was he sweet, romantic, that sort of thing. A ring is a ring, but his heart is everything!

Lauren says:

I got a non-diamond ring from my fiance and love it. Unless someone is a gem crazy girl (which she only like the shiny stuff).. she shouldn’t care. Men do try to give the best but a 10,000 dollar ring that he can get for 2,000 doesn’t mean the woman is not worth 10,000 (as a good spouse is priceless firstly… haha)

This is very well written and made me laugh! Women do compare diamond sizes whether we want to admit it or not. Is there a term for that? Diamond envy? I couldn’t agree more with your thoughts about what really matters. That men put some thought in to how they are going to propose. It is a story a woman will tell many times throughout her life and it is important. Best of luck with your coming engagement!

crunchycon says:

My DH of 22 years really lucked out, as he bought neither a wedding ring nor a diamond (boy were we poor, having just finished grad school). We did buy his ring, and my mom, who had been married long enough to upgrade her own ring, gave me her original, which I wear proudly to this day. As the only granddaughter, I inherited a nice diamond solitaire from my grandmother which stands in for an engagement ring next to my wedding band.

The guy is still a keeper – they’re just rings, and the marriage that they symbolize is what counts.

Teacher Man says:

Sounds like you’re a pretty good catch too!

Amanda says:

I really didn’t expect a ring from my husband. I didn’t even really expect a traditional proposal as we had been together 6 years and had bought a home together where we decided we’d like to raise our children – not exactly iffy on whether we’d spend the rest of our lives together, so getting engaged or married seemed not all that important. I was less interested in having some symbol to show everyone else how committed we were than putting our resources toward our home and savings.

But he likes that sort of thing, so he spent about half a month’s net wages for a traditional diamond ring. Truthfully, I just like pretty things, so it didn’t need to be real diamonds or have a stone at all, just be nice-looking. It is a very simple, elegant piece, thankfully. When we first started dating he gave me a horribly gaudy necklace that I wore once or twice to please him, then “forgot” I had it. That trick would be harder to pull off with an engagement ring.

Young says:

@Amanda- LOL 🙂 You sound like every man’s dream!

When I proposed to my wife a few years ago, I also did not buy a ring that is worth my 3-months salary. I got her a beautiful diamond ring that I bought for a decent price. However, size does matter! I bought her higher quality and larger size than her immediate friends.. 3 month salary would be ridiculous! Also, I’m glad I got married young.. if I was to do it all over again.. the ring would have to much closer to my 3 month salary mark to keep up with her friends.

Teacher Man says:

If you don’t mind me asking Dom, what were the 4 Cs at three months salary?

Young says:

@DB- haha good point!!

Shovellicious says:

When I was 20, I met really great guy. I loved him so much like young girl can love somebody who is a real example of prince you don’t expect to meet in your life. After few months of really great relationship, I found out he was going to buy a ring for me (don’t ask how I did it, long story, nothing spectacular). And then something strange happened: I didn’t want that. I knew he-was-that-guy-a-father-of-our-children-in-the-future BUT I didn’t want that then. Not yet. I wasn’t party-girl, crazy chick (ok, maybe I was a little) but I wasn’t ready for this kind of serious decisions. I didn’t need an engagement ring to be sure I loved him and he loved me. One year later we broke up. He couldn’t understand why I didn’t want make decision like that and I started feeling like he was going to keep me in a gold cage. After some time I met somebody else. We have been together for around 5 years. We live together. We have ups and down but I feel he is that guy I want to race with on our wheelchairs when we will be 100years old 😉 But seriously… from one side I don’t need this ring but from the other… even when he feels the same way about racing (and few other things) and he’s not “family guy” I think this could be great one day… to be asked this magical question… just to feel you’re loved by somebody in such a way he knows he wants to spend the rest of your life with you 🙂

Young says:

@Shovellicious- Awe that’s sweet! 🙂 Yes I always love it when I see older adults holding hands. My heart always skips a beat.

Liquid says:

“The three rings of marriage are the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffering.”
~Unknown Author

Young says:

@Liquid- haah I’ve heard of that one before 🙂

Well said Young, its great to know that from your point of view.

lee says:

As a recently engaged uber-practical (would rather put the $ to the downpayment/mortgage/etc…) lass, I was actually quite surprised with how my views have changed now that I am engaged. Before I would have said I didn’t care about the jewelry, but now I can’t wait to have something on my finger to remind me of our commitment to each other. Before I would have said that diamond’s are a waste of money, but I adore the vintage heirloom rock that is still awaiting its setting. I am still struggling with the “we have to pay how much to get the setting that I want for this?!?” issue (even if the rock was gifted to us). And don’t even get me started on the “weddings cost how much?!” train. Ludicrous (even for a moderately sized no-frills pragmatic affair). The only way that I have been able to justify spending all the money is to ensure that we are putting our dollars into local independent young and small businesses and organizations (see young caterers/photographers just starting out, independent eco-dress fabricators, Parks and Rec venues) that truly need our support (and of course fit our budget).

Young says:

@lee- Awe you go girl! 🙂

Money Beagle says:

The ‘3 month’ gimmick was simply a commercial and campaign made up by DeBeers to sell more rings. Very annoying if you ask me. That said, I like your approach and thought. I surprised my wife with our engagement. We’d looked at rings so she was sort of in the know that it was coming, but I surprised her with the when, the where and the how, and made a scrapbook of our time together that culminated with a page imploring her to ‘Say Yes’ where, by that point, I had pulled out the ring and asked her to marry me.

Young says:

@MoneyBeagle- I think you just made me cry 🙂

Leslie says:

This is so creative and sweet/thoughtful!

Steve says:

I remember taking my GF to dinner on our one year anniversary. We had a nice dinner and at the end she looked very excited and nervous at the same time. I asked her whats wrong and she blurted out, “Aren’t you going to ask me something?!?”

Turns out she was expecting me to propose and was very disappointed. I told her that I hadn’t planned on proposing for A LONG TIME. The truth is I had the ring and surprised her a month later. It was burning a hole in my pocket and couldn’t wait to give it to her.

When you meet the right one, you just know. I wanted her to have a nice ring that represented the same type of commitment I was willing to give her for the rest of my life. I think I spent $5000 which was about a month and a half of my salary back then. No need to upgrade it later when prices inflate, and the ring is guaranteed for life as long as it’s brought in and inspected free of charge every 6 months. It will be 5 years this May and it was the best decision of my life 🙂

Liquid says:

Haha, your wife is hilarious.

Young says:

@Steve- Awe Steve!! Your girlfriend sounds exactly like me. I’m trying hard not to be a blubbing idiot on every occasion lol. Awe congratulations on your beautiful 5 year anniversary!!

Koala says:

I had a few requirements that my husband knew about just based on problem’s he had seen with my friends.
1. It had to actually be gold. I have allergies and sometimes work near very strong magnets. Stores like Walmart are quite bad for the metal not being what they say it is which is dangerous near magnets!
2. I wanted it to be from a chain store. When you’re newly engaged but can’t wear the ring because you’re out of province and smaller diamonds have slid out that threaten the security of the rest in the ring you want to be able to get it fixed ASAP. It’s also nice to have a life-long warranty, free cleaning services, etc.

My husband and I did get a chuckle from a couple in a Tiffany store once. Her entire outfit consisted of high-end designer clothing; Coach would probably be slumming it for her. As far as we could tell, they were arguing about the engagement ring and the guy looked pretty disappointed.

Teacher Man says:

That guy sounds like he is about to be disappointed by a lot of things!

Young says:

@Koala- Your 2nd requirement is very practical! Haha “Coach would probably be slumming it for her” lol. She sounds like a lot of women I know.

Leigh says:

I hear you on the size, Young! I definitely do not want a ring that costs three months of my salary – that would be way too big and fancy. Honestly, I see myself being someone who only wears a wedding band after the wedding day and not the engagement ring every day. I don’t care much for jewellery or for rings in general, so I really think something under $1,000 is sufficient and it’s the thought that counts. A ring the cost of a mid-size car? No thank you.

Young says:

@Leigh- Leigh we are so much alike!! Lol… I might be that type too I’m not sure. I don’t want something to big and obnoxious that I would be embarrassed to wear.

GPS says:

I totally agree about women silently comparing but not even knowing it! My best friend just got engaged. She’s into expensive things and I silently was comparing and asking her about it.

She said her ring was the same cost of a small car. It makes me feel small, like she was loved more than me (which is absolutely ridiculous). and I HATE that the first thing girlfriends ask after the engagement announcement is “Let’s look at the ring!”.

I think it’s something that can be a real tension of values among women.. Yes we want to have the money put into something more practical… but we also want to be able to show it off!

Young says:

@GPS- I know, I had those same thoughts too. It’s very juvenile but we can’t help but think it. We need to repeat after ourselves “The size of the diamond is not indicative of his love for me” lol. That being said…. I have another friend who’s fiance proposed to her with a “small-ish” ring but a few weeks before that, bought himself an Audi TT for his own grad present.

GPS says:

Your friend whose finance proposed with a “small-ish” ring and got himself a really nice car! THAT would piss me off! Don’t know why. It just does.

Char says:

My engagement ring is 1.3 carats, very expensive. My marriage lasted ~2 years. My mom and I were comparing rings some years after my divorce and I commented that my rock was bigger than her whole setting. (We have teased her forever about the “diamond dust” in her ring.) She looked at me and said, “yes, but mine took” – she and my dad just celebrated 57 years. So I’m thinking the ring is really not all that important! If I ever try it again, I think I’d go with something other than a diamond anyway. They really are overrated and overpriced.

Teacher Man says:

That is a very revealing insight Char. Maybe I should use that logic to explain things to my gf 😉

Young says:

@Char- Awe great story! Thanks for sharing 🙂 Congrats to your mom and dad!

Fiona says:

I pretty much agree with all of your points! I would be lying if I said I didn’t want a diamond ring but I’m also not so unreasonable that I’ll only accept Tiffany/the biggest/most expensive ring out there. My bf and I are pretty good with our money and saving up for the future is so much more important than an expensive ring. As long as it suits my taste and is proportional to the size of my hand (honestly I have small fingers anyway so I won’t need a huge rock; it’ll look out of place), and is not a conflict diamond, I’ll be satisfied. I’m also not opposed to a vintage / heirloom ring, but unfortunately we don’t have anything like that in our families.

Young says:

@Fiona- One of my friends posted her Tiffany ring box and made it her facebook profile page when she got engaged. Unreasonable much?

I proudly wore* my engagement ring of amethyst and white topaz, which I picked out on Etsy. I am not a diamond person, and CZ didn’t seem right either (I did get a CZ wedding band, though). Since I figured my engagement ring would be the piece of jewelry I would wear the longest, I wanted to get something I really loved, and I really love purple. So it had to be an amethyst. I also figured that I would much rather he spend money on a house that we could both enjoy, so my ring cost a whopping $60, and my wedding band about $22. Two years later, I have absolutely zero regrets and I haven’t had any wayward comments about either choice.

*I don’t wear any rings right now while my daughter’s in the hospital due to risk of infection. I’ll wear them again someday!

Young says:

@LMM- Awe- speedy recovery for your daughter! Thanks for your perspective, they sound lovely!

geekymath says:

The one that I’m getting (it has already been bought. Just waiting) was bought from a jewelry pawn shop. The guy who owns the pawn shop is a pro jeweler so the rings are real and a good deal. He’ll even size it!

Young says:

@geekymath- Whhhhhaaatt! I didn’t know you were getting engaged!! You don’t tweet about it? Congrats!

Mrs. SPF was thrilled to receive the ring my great grandmother worse in the early 1920s. We re-used the resources and the family value is un-measureable. It is a small rock in a petite band but it works very well for Mrs. SPF as she has slender fingers. It is a symbol of us, our promise, our value of family and our ethos re: sustainability.

The Sustainable Wedding Series Mrs. SPF didn’t get a lot of attention but I think it should have gotten a bit more than it did. Frugal, Green, Wedding.


Teacher Man says:

I definitely zipped over to check it out SPF, thanks for sharing!

Young says:

@SPF- Thanks for sharing! “it is a symbol of us, our promise, our value of family and our ethos: sustainability” —> love it!

And for the Frugal type, saved us a bundle 😉
The wedding band and engagement ring were welded together by a gold smith / jeweller friend of mine – she wears the rings daily and they don’t stick out as some status symbol.

My husband made an engagement ring for me out of a slice of dowel rod. We got married right out of college and had no money.

Teacher Man says:

I think that is pretty damn romantic in a young and crazy way!

Young says:

@nicoleandmaggie- He made it himself- that’s sweet!

Steph says:

I don’t think wanting an engagement ring makes you a bad feminist, as long as you realize that in the end it’s a piece of jewelry (which I think you do). I wasn’t particular about it at all, but in the end I’m glad I have one because it reminds me of someone I love.

Mine actually isn’t a diamond- for me there were too many ethical issues with that particular stone, plus I think they are overpriced. My fiance designed me a lovely aquamarine ring which I adore- to me the thought he put into it meant 10000 times more than the price tag.

Young says:

@Steph- Yes, designing a ring = put a lot of thought into it. Anything with a lot of thought (rather than just grabbing whatever is pushed onto them by the jeweler) deserves brownie points 🙂 Thank you for validating me! (I was worried I would be a bad feminist lol).

Vanessa says:

I’ve been engaged twice. The first time was with a poor-student-I’ll-buy-one-when-I-get-a-job kind of guy. The second time I got a real ring which I went to the store and picked out myself and came to a grand total of $345. It was 1/10 of a carat or something but I loved how it was completely non-flashy and simple

Young says:

@Vanvessa- Awe! How did you get engaged the first time when he didn’t get you a ring yet?

Vanessa says:

He asked me to marry him… Proposals don’t need to come with rings…

I agree with your “what really matters” paragraph as far as it goes but to me what really mattered was getting married. I have an engagement ring that I love that is very stereotypical (diamond solitaire) and beautiful that we put a lot of thought into, etc., and my husband executed what I consider the best proposal ever… Yes, all of that is amazing. But I just really wanted to get married! For a while I thought the ring-buying itself was holding up the engagement process (lies, as it turns out) and I kept telling my husband that I didn’t care about having a ring and that we should just move forward without one. I am glad that he did it the way he wanted, the traditional way with the ring and my parents’ permission and surprise proposal and everything. I think that says a lot to everyone else and it gave us some great memories. But to me it was all about becoming one in marriage.

Young says:

@Emily- Oh man watching proposals on Youtube gets me going (tissues please!) every time. I am glad you and your husband are married and he gave you good memories with his proposal! 🙂

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